From steve at spvi.com Fri Apr 2 07:31:41 2004 From: steve at spvi.com (Steve Spicklemire) Date: Fri Apr 2 07:32:19 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] meeting today? Message-ID: Hi Folks, My kids are on spring break this week.. so I can't stay very long at the meeting today. What's on the agenda? Maybe I could contribute some more offline? thanks, (and sorry!) -steve From skipcomer at iquest.net Fri Apr 2 08:05:26 2004 From: skipcomer at iquest.net (skip comer) Date: Fri Apr 2 07:57:20 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] meeting today? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <6888A8F6-84A6-11D8-92F4-000393A575D2@iquest.net> Hi Steve, We are working with showing content --specifically video-- on the classroom projector, using a shockwave movie in a browser window, which we are controlling from the teacher interface (Director). Right now, we can control the playback (play, stop, fast forward, etc.) by talking with a local connection object, which we want to replace with instantXML. The other problem involves something similar to the "Question" movies from last summer: we want to open a generic video player shockwave movie in the browser window when we click a timeline button, so we can use "goToNetPage(URL)" from Director... but passing the data for which movie to play is a problem. We are thinking the shockwave movie might just ask the server what to do, but we need a good strategy for how to know what to send. Xiaoqiu is thinking we can use the context of the URL we call from Zope to do it. I'm a little skeptical whether that will work with Director... so we need to do a test. thoughts? --Skip On Friday, April 2, 2004, at 07:31 AM, Steve Spicklemire wrote: > Hi Folks, > > My kids are on spring break this week.. so I can't stay very long at > the meeting today. What's on the agenda? Maybe I could contribute some > more offline? > > thanks, (and sorry!) > -steve > > _______________________________________________ > Hecdev mailing list > Hecdev@spvi.com > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev > From skipcomer at iquest.net Fri Apr 2 08:44:24 2004 From: skipcomer at iquest.net (skip comer) Date: Fri Apr 2 08:36:20 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] xiaoqiu, mohamed: In-Reply-To: <6888A8F6-84A6-11D8-92F4-000393A575D2@iquest.net> Message-ID: Hi, Sorry--- I know we agreed to work on the video project this morning, but I forgot about the faculty meeting. I'll be over after the meeting is done --about noon. --Skip From steve at spvi.com Fri Apr 2 09:27:49 2004 From: steve at spvi.com (Steve Spicklemire) Date: Fri Apr 2 09:28:29 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] xiaoqiu, mohamed: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'll try to be there around noon too! -steve On Apr 2, 2004, at 8:44 AM, skip comer wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry--- I know we agreed to work on the video project this morning, > but I forgot about the faculty meeting. I'll be over after the > meeting is done --about noon. > > --Skip > > _______________________________________________ > Hecdev mailing list > Hecdev@spvi.com > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev From xqbao at yahoo.com Fri Apr 2 07:18:59 2004 From: xqbao at yahoo.com (xqbao) Date: Fri Apr 2 10:19:45 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] xiaoqiu, mohamed: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040402151859.63442.qmail@web41110.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Steve, Thank you very much! See you around noon! Xiaoqiu --- Steve Spicklemire wrote: > I'll try to be there around noon too! > > -steve > > On Apr 2, 2004, at 8:44 AM, skip comer wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Sorry--- I know we agreed to work on the video project this > morning, > > but I forgot about the faculty meeting. I'll be over after the > > meeting is done --about noon. > > > > --Skip > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hecdev mailing list > > Hecdev@spvi.com > > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev > > _______________________________________________ > Hecdev mailing list > Hecdev@spvi.com > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ From jkernick at iupui.edu Fri Apr 2 11:10:03 2004 From: jkernick at iupui.edu (jolene m. kernick) Date: Fri Apr 2 11:10:45 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] meeting today (attn: mohamed) In-Reply-To: <6888A8F6-84A6-11D8-92F4-000393A575D2@iquest.net> References: <6888A8F6-84A6-11D8-92F4-000393A575D2@iquest.net> Message-ID: <1080922203.406d905b3253d@webmail.iu.edu> Mohamed, It looks like I'll be reformatting my Powerbook today - not sure if it's a software or hardware error, but I can't even boot it up now, so I'm off to see Todd, who promised he would help me work on it this afternoon. When I finish up there, I'll be working from home, since I have all the files I need on my PC. Unfortunately, it looks like I may be losing everything that was on my Powerbook, unless we can find a way to boot it up and back everything up. Cursed MACs! I will e-mail you when I have the latest version of the Director movie uploaded to Zope. Have a great weekend! Jolene From mhamdouc at iupui.edu Fri Apr 2 16:06:51 2004 From: mhamdouc at iupui.edu (Hamdouchi, Mohamed) Date: Fri Apr 2 16:07:30 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] (attn: Jolene) Message-ID: <9D25EC9CEF02EE449A4D64BFFA413AC8F7C75B@iu-mssg-mbx05.exchange.iu.edu> Jolene, No problem... Let me know when you upload the latest version on Zope Have a nice week-end -----Original Message----- From: hecdev-bounces@spvi.com [mailto:hecdev-bounces@spvi.com] On Behalf Of Kernick, Jolene M Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:10 AM To: HEC Development Subject: [Hecdev] meeting today (attn: mohamed) Mohamed, It looks like I'll be reformatting my Powerbook today - not sure if it's a software or hardware error, but I can't even boot it up now, so I'm off to see Todd, who promised he would help me work on it this afternoon. When I finish up there, I'll be working from home, since I have all the files I need on my PC. Unfortunately, it looks like I may be losing everything that was on my Powerbook, unless we can find a way to boot it up and back everything up. Cursed MACs! I will e-mail you when I have the latest version of the Director movie uploaded to Zope. Have a great weekend! Jolene _______________________________________________ Hecdev mailing list Hecdev@spvi.com http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev From jkernick at iupui.edu Fri Apr 2 16:41:50 2004 From: jkernick at iupui.edu (jolene m. kernick) Date: Fri Apr 2 16:42:29 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] latest director movie (yo mohamed!) In-Reply-To: <9D25EC9CEF02EE449A4D64BFFA413AC8F7C75B@iu-mssg-mbx05.exchange.iu.edu> References: <9D25EC9CEF02EE449A4D64BFFA413AC8F7C75B@iu-mssg-mbx05.exchange.iu.edu> Message-ID: <1080942110.406dde1e6bb4d@webmail.iu.edu> Mohamed, I just uploaded the latest version of the Director movie I've been working on to Zope. It's in the custom folder, under my name, under "UI" - titled 4_2_theatre_presentation.dir. I added the library sections to the Authoring Mode, with the ability to search/browse and sort by name/size/type. That stuff will need to be coded of course, but the graphics are there. Let me know if you notice anything else that needs to be added. Other than that, I think it's pretty much done. I'm sure I'll continue to tweak it but I'll send you any changes I make. I miss my laptop! Jolene Quoting "Hamdouchi, Mohamed" : > Jolene, > > No problem... > Let me know when you upload the latest version on Zope > > Have a nice week-end > > -----Original Message----- > From: hecdev-bounces@spvi.com [mailto:hecdev-bounces@spvi.com] On Behalf > Of Kernick, Jolene M > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:10 AM > To: HEC Development > Subject: [Hecdev] meeting today (attn: mohamed) > > Mohamed, > > It looks like I'll be reformatting my Powerbook today - not sure if it's > a > software or hardware error, but I can't even boot it up now, so I'm off > to see > Todd, who promised he would help me work on it this afternoon. When I > finish > up there, I'll be working from home, since I have all the files I need > on my > PC. Unfortunately, it looks like I may be losing everything that was on > my > Powerbook, unless we can find a way to boot it up and back everything > up. > Cursed MACs! I will e-mail you when I have the latest version of the > Director > movie uploaded to Zope. Have a great weekend! > > Jolene > _______________________________________________ > Hecdev mailing list > Hecdev@spvi.com > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev > > _______________________________________________ > Hecdev mailing list > Hecdev@spvi.com > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev > > > From vinnie at sonarstudios.com Fri Apr 2 12:36:15 2004 From: vinnie at sonarstudios.com (Vince) Date: Sat Apr 3 06:59:15 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] The program charts Message-ID: <405935F2-84CC-11D8-8290-00039364C736@sonarstudios.com> These are mainly for Mohamed, but are certainly available for all. In Illustrator format. vince -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: RLHEC _Program Charts.zip Type: application/zip Size: 3838398 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mailman.spvi.com/pipermail/hecdev/attachments/20040402/89f2fa8e/RLHEC_ProgramCharts-0001.zip From steve at spvi.com Mon Apr 5 12:44:46 2004 From: steve at spvi.com (Steve Spicklemire) Date: Mon Apr 5 12:45:30 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] video testing.. Message-ID: Hi Folks, I just modified 'genericVideo.mov' to explicitly call the index_html() method of the media object it's streaming.... so I think it works better now. ;-) -steve From xqbao at yahoo.com Mon Apr 5 10:56:22 2004 From: xqbao at yahoo.com (xqbao) Date: Mon Apr 5 12:57:20 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] genericVideo.mov In-Reply-To: <07F99C41-7C0C-11D8-960F-000393468020@spvi.com> Message-ID: <20040405175622.85175.qmail@web41114.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Steve, Thanks! I can see http://mail.rlhec.org:9180/HECPlone/HEC/Media/Videos/VideoTest/Plaque.mov, and http://mail.rlhec.org:9180/HECPlone/HEC/Media/Videos/VideoTest/Plaque.mov/genericVideo.mov Xiaoqiu __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ From xqbao at yahoo.com Thu Apr 8 13:42:08 2004 From: xqbao at yahoo.com (xqbao) Date: Thu Apr 8 15:42:55 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] meeting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040408204208.29817.qmail@web41115.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Steve, I wonder if you will have time to meet tomorrow around 1:00pm. Thanks! Xiaoqiu __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ From steve at spvi.com Thu Apr 8 15:44:04 2004 From: steve at spvi.com (Steve Spicklemire) Date: Thu Apr 8 15:44:45 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] Re: meeting In-Reply-To: <20040408204208.29817.qmail@web41115.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040408204208.29817.qmail@web41115.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <797805E4-899D-11D8-8AF4-000393468020@spvi.com> Yes.. that should work. thanks! -steve On Apr 8, 2004, at 3:42 PM, xqbao wrote: > Hi Steve, > > I wonder if you will have time to meet tomorrow around 1:00pm. > > Thanks! > > Xiaoqiu > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway > http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ From xqbao at yahoo.com Thu Apr 15 11:34:15 2004 From: xqbao at yahoo.com (xqbao) Date: Thu Apr 15 13:35:01 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] web site links In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040415183415.87277.qmail@web41108.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Verlyn, I found some web sites which are about nutrition, fitness, obesity, etc. Games/applications: http://www.cdc.gov/powerfulbones/games_fun/index.html http://pbskids.org/itsmylife/games/index.html http://www.mcdonalds.com/app_controller.nutrition.mcmeal.bagmeal.html http://pbskids.org/berenstainbears/games/index.html http://kidshealth.org/ Nutrition/food/weight/BMI: http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/bmi/calc-bmi.htm http://www.wimb.net/index.php?s=home&page=2 http://nhlbisupport.com/bmi/ http://www.halls.md/ideal-weight/body.htm http://nutri-facts.com/ http://www.weightlossresource.com/tools/exercise/calculator1_2.cfm http://www.wattsonschools.com/calc-exercise.htm http://www.annecollins.com/weight-loss/obesity-chart.htm News: The announcement and a presentation by McDonald's executives at the National Press Club in Washington signaled the company's biggest public-relations push yet on obesity and diet concerns that are forcing sweeping changes in the U.S. food and restaurant industries. http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/diet.fitness/04/15/adult.happy.meals.ap/index.html Please let me know if we can use the combination of those web sites as our guide and which parts of those web sites you like. It would be great if you can show the web sites to others on your big screen laptop computer and get their feedback during today's meeting. Thanks! Xiaoqiu __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From xqbao at yahoo.com Thu Apr 15 13:18:51 2004 From: xqbao at yahoo.com (xqbao) Date: Thu Apr 15 15:19:35 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] meeting In-Reply-To: <20040415183415.87277.qmail@web41108.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040415201851.43598.qmail@web41106.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Steve, I wonder if you will have time to meet tomorrow. Thanks! Xiaoqiu __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From steve at spvi.com Thu Apr 15 16:33:12 2004 From: steve at spvi.com (Steve Spicklemire) Date: Thu Apr 15 16:34:09 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] meeting In-Reply-To: <20040415201851.43598.qmail@web41106.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040415201851.43598.qmail@web41106.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7F3E887D-8F24-11D8-8E47-000393468020@spvi.com> Yes.. would 1pm or so work? thanks! -steve On Apr 15, 2004, at 3:18 PM, xqbao wrote: > Hi Steve, > > I wonder if you will have time to meet tomorrow. > > Thanks! > > Xiaoqiu > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th > http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html > _______________________________________________ > Hecdev mailing list > Hecdev@spvi.com > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev From xqbao at yahoo.com Thu Apr 15 14:36:45 2004 From: xqbao at yahoo.com (xqbao) Date: Thu Apr 15 16:37:30 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] meeting In-Reply-To: <7F3E887D-8F24-11D8-8E47-000393468020@spvi.com> Message-ID: <20040415213645.16937.qmail@web41102.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Steve, Thanks! See you at 1:00 pm tomorrow! Xiaoqiu --- Steve Spicklemire wrote: > Yes.. would 1pm or so work? > > thanks! > -steve > > On Apr 15, 2004, at 3:18 PM, xqbao wrote: > > > Hi Steve, > > > > I wonder if you will have time to meet tomorrow. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Xiaoqiu > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th > > http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html > > _______________________________________________ > > Hecdev mailing list > > Hecdev@spvi.com > > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev > > _______________________________________________ > Hecdev mailing list > Hecdev@spvi.com > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From steve at spvi.com Sun Apr 18 23:53:06 2004 From: steve at spvi.com (Steve Spicklemire) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:53:48 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] xmlrpc/instant xml and shockwave.. Message-ID: <72960E44-91BD-11D8-B3DF-000393468020@spvi.com> Hi Folks, Well... I guess it was a mental block. ;-) It turns out shockwave doesn't like file:// urls.. but does in fact work OK from the server, mostly. The two problems we still have are: 1) Director (shockwave or projector) doesn't keep content-type headers (even though they are set correctly in flash) and 2) Director (shockwave or projector) doesn't maintain correct 'Host' header so that URL calculations are messed up. I've worked around both of these over the weekend by adding code to the ZMX_XML library that is triggered when System.capabilities.playerType is DirectorXtra, and (for methods that return calculated URLs) explicitly passing a 'baseURL' to the method when Director is being used. (e.g., if (System.capabilities.playerType == 'DirectorXtra') { this.responder.callMethod('get_keywords',['',this.responder.config.url]) ; } else { this.responder.callMethod('get_keywords'); } ) get_keywords now starts out like this: ## Script (Python) "get_keywords" ##bind container=container ##bind context=context ##bind namespace= ##bind script=script ##bind subpath=traverse_subpath ##parameters=q='', baseURL='' ##title= ## and has a bit like so: elif otherManagerID == 'CMFData': image_item=context.CMFData.mediaRack.getItem( otherObjectID ) if baseURL: url = baseURL + '/fSystem/' + image_item.fs_object_relpath else: url=str(image_item.graphic_url) or '' This way, if Director is involved, we can pass in the extra info needed to sort out correct URL. If you get the latest shockwave player from Macromedia (version 10.0.0) you should see these two working: http://hecxs.spvi.net:9180/HECPlone/HEC/food_UI.dcr (the food_UI clip in a director window) and http://hecxs.spvi.net:9180/HECPlone/HEC/testShock.dcr (you should recognize this is the asyncTest.fla clip in a director window) XMLRPC is now configured using an XMLRPC method, just as InstantXML has always been. The file is getXMLRPCConfig (similar to getInstantXMLConfig). As far as applescript is concerned it's clear that we can open/position/close quicktime like so: tell application "QuickTime Player" activate open location {"http://hecxs.spvi.net:9180/HECPlone/HEC/Media/Videos/VideoTest/ Cells.mov"} set position of window "Cells.mov" to {530, 274} play movie "Cells.mov" stop movie "Cells.mov" end tell and so on... I even found a nice python module that should allow us to easily transport/interpret arbitrary actionscript over an InstantXML channel. anyway.. more soon! (BTW this is the last week of classes for me... next week is finals week... so we can start looking at good meeting time(s) for the summer). take care, -steve From steve at spvi.com Mon Apr 19 09:40:22 2004 From: steve at spvi.com (Steve Spicklemire) Date: Mon Apr 19 09:41:04 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] Backup etc.. Message-ID: <7CBC7C84-920F-11D8-9EF8-000393468020@spvi.com> I'm packing and backing up all our stuff this morning as a precaution. If things seem slow... that's probably why. -steve From steve at spvi.com Tue Apr 20 10:54:59 2004 From: steve at spvi.com (Steve Spicklemire) Date: Tue Apr 20 10:55:40 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] new .zip in steve_test folder Message-ID: <1407783E-92E3-11D8-99FC-000393468020@spvi.com> I've got foods moving between food_UI and foodDisplay using only instantXML now. There is a .zip in the 'steve_test' folder with the .fla sources. However.. I have a proposal. ;-) How about changing the food_UI interface so that it works exactly like the RFID interface? It seems wasteful to write and debug two *different* ways to send food data, when we already have one (i.e., the RFID way). thoughts are welcome. take care, -steve From skipcomer at iquest.net Tue Apr 20 11:16:04 2004 From: skipcomer at iquest.net (skip comer) Date: Tue Apr 20 11:07:35 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] new .zip in steve_test folder In-Reply-To: <1407783E-92E3-11D8-99FC-000393468020@spvi.com> Message-ID: <05FB2D49-92E6-11D8-9AD0-000393A575D2@iquest.net> Hi Steve, that's really what I had in mind --the only wrinkle being that we need to know where the RFID message is coming from... --Skip On Tuesday, April 20, 2004, at 10:54 AM, Steve Spicklemire wrote: > I've got foods moving between food_UI and foodDisplay using only > instantXML now. There is a .zip in the 'steve_test' folder with the > .fla sources. > > However.. I have a proposal. ;-) > > How about changing the food_UI interface so that it works exactly like > the RFID interface? It seems wasteful to write and debug two > *different* ways to send food data, when we already have one (i.e., > the RFID way). > > thoughts are welcome. > > take care, > -steve > > _______________________________________________ > Hecdev mailing list > Hecdev@spvi.com > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev > From steve at spvi.com Tue Apr 20 11:14:50 2004 From: steve at spvi.com (Steve Spicklemire) Date: Tue Apr 20 11:15:30 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] new .zip in steve_test folder In-Reply-To: <05FB2D49-92E6-11D8-9AD0-000393A575D2@iquest.net> References: <05FB2D49-92E6-11D8-9AD0-000393A575D2@iquest.net> Message-ID: On Apr 20, 2004, at 11:16 AM, skip comer wrote: > Hi Steve, > > that's really what I had in mind --the only wrinkle being that we > need to know where the RFID message is coming from... Why? Can't we just send all the foods each time, like the RFID system does? Then we don't need to have all the conditional code in the foodDisplay... at least that's what I was thinking.. is there some other reason why the foodUI needs to be different from the RFID? -steve > > --Skip > > On Tuesday, April 20, 2004, at 10:54 AM, Steve Spicklemire wrote: > >> I've got foods moving between food_UI and foodDisplay using only >> instantXML now. There is a .zip in the 'steve_test' folder with the >> .fla sources. >> >> However.. I have a proposal. ;-) >> >> How about changing the food_UI interface so that it works exactly >> like the RFID interface? It seems wasteful to write and debug two >> *different* ways to send food data, when we already have one (i.e., >> the RFID way). >> >> thoughts are welcome. >> >> take care, >> -steve >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hecdev mailing list >> Hecdev@spvi.com >> http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev >> > > _______________________________________________ > Hecdev mailing list > Hecdev@spvi.com > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev From skipcomer at iquest.net Tue Apr 20 11:49:17 2004 From: skipcomer at iquest.net (skip comer) Date: Tue Apr 20 11:40:48 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] new .zip in steve_test folder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Here's the problem: The RFID tablet sends me a list of all the foods on the tray when it updates. With only one device sending a list, I erase all the foods, then draw the entire list again. When we add the on-screen interface, we are mixing and matching the devices... I might put some foods on the screen from the tray, some from the touch-screen. If each device erases ALL the foods, but only redraws the ones it knows about, we have trouble. So, I need to be able to erase all the foods from the tray and re-draw them, leaving the touch-screen foods --and vice versa. On Tuesday, April 20, 2004, at 11:14 AM, Steve Spicklemire wrote: > > On Apr 20, 2004, at 11:16 AM, skip comer wrote: > >> Hi Steve, >> >> that's really what I had in mind --the only wrinkle being that we >> need to know where the RFID message is coming from... > > Why? Can't we just send all the foods each time, like the RFID system > does? Then we don't need to have all the conditional code in the > foodDisplay... at least that's what I was thinking.. is there some > other reason why the foodUI needs to be different from the RFID? > > -steve > >> >> --Skip >> >> On Tuesday, April 20, 2004, at 10:54 AM, Steve Spicklemire wrote: >> >>> I've got foods moving between food_UI and foodDisplay using only >>> instantXML now. There is a .zip in the 'steve_test' folder with the >>> .fla sources. >>> >>> However.. I have a proposal. ;-) >>> >>> How about changing the food_UI interface so that it works exactly >>> like the RFID interface? It seems wasteful to write and debug two >>> *different* ways to send food data, when we already have one (i.e., >>> the RFID way). >>> >>> thoughts are welcome. >>> >>> take care, >>> -steve >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hecdev mailing list >>> Hecdev@spvi.com >>> http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hecdev mailing list >> Hecdev@spvi.com >> http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev > > _______________________________________________ > Hecdev mailing list > Hecdev@spvi.com > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev > From steve at spvi.com Tue Apr 20 12:06:16 2004 From: steve at spvi.com (Steve Spicklemire) Date: Tue Apr 20 12:06:54 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] new .zip in steve_test folder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <08F6D66C-92ED-11D8-99FC-000393468020@spvi.com> Ah.. I get it. How about if the server adds a 'source' key to the data it posts to instantXML? When the RFID peripheral transmits it would embed the peripheral type and the peripheral ID. This could be used by InstantXML subscribers to store with incoming data. Then when new (food) data comes in, you could clear out all the existing foods that have the same peripheral type (and/or) id so that one peripheral can't stomp on another's data. That would also permit multiple food trays (if we ever wanted to do that). Would that work? -steve On Apr 20, 2004, at 11:49 AM, skip comer wrote: > Here's the problem: The RFID tablet sends me a list of all the foods > on the tray when it updates. With only one device sending a list, I > erase all the foods, then draw the entire list again. When we add the > on-screen interface, we are mixing and matching the devices... I > might put some foods on the screen from the tray, some from the > touch-screen. If each device erases ALL the foods, but only redraws > the ones it knows about, we have trouble. So, I need to be able to > erase all the foods from the tray and re-draw them, leaving the > touch-screen foods --and vice versa. > > On Tuesday, April 20, 2004, at 11:14 AM, Steve Spicklemire wrote: > >> >> On Apr 20, 2004, at 11:16 AM, skip comer wrote: >> >>> Hi Steve, >>> >>> that's really what I had in mind --the only wrinkle being that we >>> need to know where the RFID message is coming from... >> >> Why? Can't we just send all the foods each time, like the RFID system >> does? Then we don't need to have all the conditional code in the >> foodDisplay... at least that's what I was thinking.. is there some >> other reason why the foodUI needs to be different from the RFID? >> >> -steve >> >>> >>> --Skip >>> >>> On Tuesday, April 20, 2004, at 10:54 AM, Steve Spicklemire wrote: >>> >>>> I've got foods moving between food_UI and foodDisplay using only >>>> instantXML now. There is a .zip in the 'steve_test' folder with the >>>> .fla sources. >>>> >>>> However.. I have a proposal. ;-) >>>> >>>> How about changing the food_UI interface so that it works exactly >>>> like the RFID interface? It seems wasteful to write and debug two >>>> *different* ways to send food data, when we already have one (i.e., >>>> the RFID way). >>>> >>>> thoughts are welcome. >>>> >>>> take care, >>>> -steve >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Hecdev mailing list >>>> Hecdev@spvi.com >>>> http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hecdev mailing list >>> Hecdev@spvi.com >>> http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hecdev mailing list >> Hecdev@spvi.com >> http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev >> > > _______________________________________________ > Hecdev mailing list > Hecdev@spvi.com > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev From skipcomer at iquest.net Tue Apr 20 12:23:32 2004 From: skipcomer at iquest.net (skip comer) Date: Tue Apr 20 12:15:06 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] new .zip in steve_test folder In-Reply-To: <08F6D66C-92ED-11D8-99FC-000393468020@spvi.com> Message-ID: <72BE066D-92EF-11D8-9AD0-000393A575D2@iquest.net> That would work --or we could just put some info in the control tags to direct the process. That would avoid making changes to other software. Which would be better? On Tuesday, April 20, 2004, at 12:06 PM, Steve Spicklemire wrote: > Ah.. I get it. > > How about if the server adds a 'source' key to the data it posts to > instantXML? When the RFID peripheral transmits it would embed the > peripheral type and the peripheral ID. This could be used by > InstantXML subscribers to store with incoming data. Then when new > (food) data comes in, you could clear out all the existing foods that > have the same peripheral type (and/or) id so that one peripheral can't > stomp on another's data. That would also permit multiple food trays > (if we ever wanted to do that). > > Would that work? > > -steve > > > On Apr 20, 2004, at 11:49 AM, skip comer wrote: > >> Here's the problem: The RFID tablet sends me a list of all the foods >> on the tray when it updates. With only one device sending a list, I >> erase all the foods, then draw the entire list again. When we add >> the on-screen interface, we are mixing and matching the devices... I >> might put some foods on the screen from the tray, some from the >> touch-screen. If each device erases ALL the foods, but only redraws >> the ones it knows about, we have trouble. So, I need to be able to >> erase all the foods from the tray and re-draw them, leaving the >> touch-screen foods --and vice versa. >> >> On Tuesday, April 20, 2004, at 11:14 AM, Steve Spicklemire wrote: >> >>> >>> On Apr 20, 2004, at 11:16 AM, skip comer wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Steve, >>>> >>>> that's really what I had in mind --the only wrinkle being that we >>>> need to know where the RFID message is coming from... >>> >>> Why? Can't we just send all the foods each time, like the RFID >>> system does? Then we don't need to have all the conditional code in >>> the foodDisplay... at least that's what I was thinking.. is there >>> some other reason why the foodUI needs to be different from the >>> RFID? >>> >>> -steve >>> >>>> >>>> --Skip >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, April 20, 2004, at 10:54 AM, Steve Spicklemire wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've got foods moving between food_UI and foodDisplay using only >>>>> instantXML now. There is a .zip in the 'steve_test' folder with >>>>> the .fla sources. >>>>> >>>>> However.. I have a proposal. ;-) >>>>> >>>>> How about changing the food_UI interface so that it works exactly >>>>> like the RFID interface? It seems wasteful to write and debug two >>>>> *different* ways to send food data, when we already have one >>>>> (i.e., the RFID way). >>>>> >>>>> thoughts are welcome. >>>>> >>>>> take care, >>>>> -steve >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Hecdev mailing list >>>>> Hecdev@spvi.com >>>>> http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Hecdev mailing list >>>> Hecdev@spvi.com >>>> http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hecdev mailing list >>> Hecdev@spvi.com >>> http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hecdev mailing list >> Hecdev@spvi.com >> http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev > > _______________________________________________ > Hecdev mailing list > Hecdev@spvi.com > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev > From xqbao at yahoo.com Tue Apr 20 14:04:37 2004 From: xqbao at yahoo.com (xqbao) Date: Tue Apr 20 16:05:23 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] new .zip in steve_test folder In-Reply-To: <08F6D66C-92ED-11D8-99FC-000393468020@spvi.com> Message-ID: <20040420210437.11175.qmail@web41112.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Steve, Could you please tell me how I can view or test the food_UI and foodDisplay? Thanks! Xiaoqiu __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash From xqbao at yahoo.com Wed Apr 21 09:16:12 2004 From: xqbao at yahoo.com (xqbao) Date: Wed Apr 21 11:17:00 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] meeting In-Reply-To: <72BE066D-92EF-11D8-9AD0-000393A575D2@iquest.net> Message-ID: <20040421161612.16988.qmail@web41104.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Steve, I wonder if you will have time to meet this Friday. Thanks! Xiaoqiu __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash From steve at spvi.com Wed Apr 21 16:03:09 2004 From: steve at spvi.com (Steve Spicklemire) Date: Wed Apr 21 16:03:53 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] meeting In-Reply-To: <20040421161612.16988.qmail@web41104.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040421161612.16988.qmail@web41104.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4ADE7B46-93D7-11D8-B11D-000393468020@spvi.com> Hi Xiaoqiu, Yes.. sorry! I've been really swamped this last week. This is the last week of classes before finals (next week). I should be able to meet tomorrow! Also.. did you get the sources I put on 9180? You should be able to use those to run the food_UI. Did that not work? thanks, -steve On Apr 21, 2004, at 11:16 AM, xqbao wrote: > Hi Steve, > > I wonder if you will have time to meet this Friday. > > Thanks! > > Xiaoqiu > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25? > http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash > _______________________________________________ > Hecdev mailing list > Hecdev@spvi.com > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev From xqbao at yahoo.com Wed Apr 21 14:17:49 2004 From: xqbao at yahoo.com (xqbao) Date: Wed Apr 21 16:18:35 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] meeting In-Reply-To: <4ADE7B46-93D7-11D8-B11D-000393468020@spvi.com> Message-ID: <20040421211749.8626.qmail@web41111.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Steve, Will we meet on Friday? or you have time on Thursday morning? I copied food_UI.dcr and foodDisplay.dcr. I can see food_UI.dcr, but foodDisplay.dcr remained black when I click on the food items on food_UI.dcr. Thanks! Xiaoqiu --- Steve Spicklemire wrote: > Hi Xiaoqiu, > > Yes.. sorry! I've been really swamped this last week. This is the > last > week of classes before finals (next week). I should be able to meet > tomorrow! > > Also.. did you get the sources I put on 9180? You should be able to > use > those to run the food_UI. Did that not work? > > thanks, > -steve > > On Apr 21, 2004, at 11:16 AM, xqbao wrote: > > > Hi Steve, > > > > I wonder if you will have time to meet this Friday. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Xiaoqiu > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ > > http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash > > _______________________________________________ > > Hecdev mailing list > > Hecdev@spvi.com > > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev > > > _______________________________________________ > Hecdev mailing list > Hecdev@spvi.com > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash From xqbao at yahoo.com Wed Apr 21 14:21:33 2004 From: xqbao at yahoo.com (xqbao) Date: Wed Apr 21 16:22:19 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] meeting In-Reply-To: <4ADE7B46-93D7-11D8-B11D-000393468020@spvi.com> Message-ID: <20040421212133.50598.qmail@web41105.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Steve, Will we meet on Friday? or you have time on Thursday morning? I copied food_UI.dcr and foodDisplay.dcr to 9180's custom folder. I can see food_UI.dcr, but foodDisplay.dcr remained black when I click on the food items on food_UI.dcr. Thanks! Xiaoqiu --- Steve Spicklemire wrote: > Hi Xiaoqiu, > > Yes.. sorry! I've been really swamped this last week. This is the > last > week of classes before finals (next week). I should be able to meet > tomorrow! > > Also.. did you get the sources I put on 9180? You should be able to > use > those to run the food_UI. Did that not work? > > thanks, > -steve > > On Apr 21, 2004, at 11:16 AM, xqbao wrote: > > > Hi Steve, > > > > I wonder if you will have time to meet this Friday. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Xiaoqiu > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ > > http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash > > _______________________________________________ > > Hecdev mailing list > > Hecdev@spvi.com > > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev > > > _______________________________________________ > Hecdev mailing list > Hecdev@spvi.com > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash From steve at spvi.com Thu Apr 22 05:17:59 2004 From: steve at spvi.com (Steve Spicklemire) Date: Thu Apr 22 05:18:45 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] meeting In-Reply-To: <20040421211749.8626.qmail@web41111.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040421211749.8626.qmail@web41111.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <54AC737A-9446-11D8-8A82-000393468020@spvi.com> Sorry.. I meant Friday morning.. On Apr 21, 2004, at 4:17 PM, xqbao wrote: > Hi Steve, > > Will we meet on Friday? or you have time on Thursday morning? > > I copied food_UI.dcr and foodDisplay.dcr. I can see food_UI.dcr, but > foodDisplay.dcr remained black when I click on the food items on > food_UI.dcr. Hmm.. can you try the .swf files? I'm wondering if I remembered to re-publish the .dcrs with the latest .swfs when I re-built the .zip archive. It might be that the .dir files don't have the latest .swfs (and therefore maybe the .dcrs are out of date?). I'll try that here this morning. One way or the other I'll get you more fully tested .zip this morning. sorry! -steve > > Thanks! > > Xiaoqiu > > > --- Steve Spicklemire wrote: >> Hi Xiaoqiu, >> >> Yes.. sorry! I've been really swamped this last week. This is the >> last >> week of classes before finals (next week). I should be able to meet >> tomorrow! >> >> Also.. did you get the sources I put on 9180? You should be able to >> use >> those to run the food_UI. Did that not work? >> >> thanks, >> -steve >> >> On Apr 21, 2004, at 11:16 AM, xqbao wrote: >> >>> Hi Steve, >>> >>> I wonder if you will have time to meet this Friday. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Xiaoqiu >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __________________________________ >>> Do you Yahoo!? >>> Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25? >>> http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hecdev mailing list >>> Hecdev@spvi.com >>> http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hecdev mailing list >> Hecdev@spvi.com >> http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25? > http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash > _______________________________________________ > Hecdev mailing list > Hecdev@spvi.com > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev From xqbao at yahoo.com Tue Apr 27 07:31:34 2004 From: xqbao at yahoo.com (xqbao) Date: Tue Apr 27 09:32:22 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] meeting In-Reply-To: <54AC737A-9446-11D8-8A82-000393468020@spvi.com> Message-ID: <20040427143134.9700.qmail@web41102.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Steve, I wonder if you will have time to meet with us this afternoon. If so, please let me know what time is good for you. Thanks! Xiaoqiu __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From steve at spvi.com Tue Apr 27 09:35:52 2004 From: steve at spvi.com (Steve Spicklemire) Date: Tue Apr 27 09:36:35 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] meeting In-Reply-To: <20040427143134.9700.qmail@web41102.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040427143134.9700.qmail@web41102.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2F2BCB4F-9858-11D8-B9EC-000393468020@spvi.com> Hi Xiaoqiu, I have a final this afternoon... but tomorrow afternoon might work. I should have some time tomorrow morning, and a good chunk of Friday as well. Next week is even more open at this point. take care, -steve On Apr 27, 2004, at 9:31 AM, xqbao wrote: > Hi Steve, > > I wonder if you will have time to meet with us this afternoon. If so, > please let me know what time is good for you. > > Thanks! > > Xiaoqiu > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover > _______________________________________________ > Hecdev mailing list > Hecdev@spvi.com > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev From xqbao at yahoo.com Tue Apr 27 07:43:24 2004 From: xqbao at yahoo.com (xqbao) Date: Tue Apr 27 09:44:11 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] meeting In-Reply-To: <2F2BCB4F-9858-11D8-B9EC-000393468020@spvi.com> Message-ID: <20040427144324.21502.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Steve, Tomorrow morning sounds good! Please let me what time is good for you. Thanks! Xiaoqiu __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover From steve at spvi.com Tue Apr 27 14:30:24 2004 From: steve at spvi.com (Steve Spicklemire) Date: Tue Apr 27 14:31:21 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] meeting In-Reply-To: <20040427144324.21502.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040427144324.21502.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <54B227C6-9881-11D8-9E2C-000393468020@spvi.com> Hi Xiaoqiu, I'm sorry.. I said tomorrow morning.. I meant tomorrow *afternoon* (from 2-4pm) or *Thursday* morning (from 9:30-11:00am) and/or Friday. Do any of those times work for you guys? -steve On Apr 27, 2004, at 9:43 AM, xqbao wrote: > Hi Steve, > > Tomorrow morning sounds good! > Please let me what time is good for you. > > Thanks! > > Xiaoqiu > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover > _______________________________________________ > Hecdev mailing list > Hecdev@spvi.com > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/hecdev From xqbao at yahoo.com Tue Apr 27 12:41:19 2004 From: xqbao at yahoo.com (xqbao) Date: Tue Apr 27 14:42:05 2004 Subject: [Hecdev] meeting In-Reply-To: <54B227C6-9881-11D8-9E2C-000393468020@spvi.com> Message-ID: <20040427194119.96163.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Steve, Thanks! See you tomorrow afternoon around 2:00 pm! Xiaoqiu --- Steve Spicklemire wrote: > Hi Xiaoqiu, > > I'm sorry.. I said tomorrow morning.. I meant tomorrow *afternoon* > (from 2-4pm) or *Thursday* morning (from 9:30-11:00am) and/or Friday. > > Do any of those times work for you guys? > -steve > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover