From steve at spvi.com Tue Apr 10 21:48:47 2007 From: steve at spvi.com (Steve Spicklemire) Date: Tue Apr 10 20:49:47 2007 Subject: Fwd: [INAAPT] PIXE-PAN at Notre Dame References: <461A76AA.1000601@nd.edu> Message-ID: <98D9274F-863A-415E-B032-CF0E4AD82704@spvi.com> I got this from Mary DeWitt at Notre Dame: Begin forwarded message: > From: Mary DeWitt > Date: April 9, 2007 1:23:54 PM EDT > To: inaapt-owner@inaapt.org > Subject: [INAAPT] PIXE-PAN at Notre Dame > > We're hoping that more teachers will apply for the program, and have > just learned that eligible participants can earn at least 5 CRUs > for the two-week > program. > > And it's free! In fact, participating teachers and students receive > stipends to offset travel > costs and local expenses. Participating teachers will receive a > $500 stipend, while > participating students will receive $100. For teachers only, we > will pay for dormitory > expenses. Those who prefer to stay in a local motel may do so at > their own expense. > Students should be local. > > Further information about this summer's PIXE-PAN is available > online beginning at > . The application deadline > for both > teachers and students is May 1st. > > Best, Mary > > *************************** Mary DeWitt Outreach Specialist JINA- > Joint Institute for Nuclear Astrophysics University of Notre Dame > Department of Physics 180D Nieuwland Science Hall Notre Dame, IN > 46556-5670 574-631-8297 fax 574-631-5952 mdewitt at nd.edu From steve at spvi.com Mon Apr 16 14:14:02 2007 From: steve at spvi.com (Steve Spicklemire) Date: Mon Apr 16 13:14:11 2007 Subject: [INAAPT] Room updates for spring meeting... Message-ID: <4285E7FE-8945-4B76-BD8A-F90A48632420@spvi.com> Hi Folks, Mike Moloney wrote to tell me that the room assignments for the spring meeting are going to have to be changed. Mike is going to make sure that the old room numbers are posted on the new rooms so we don't need to reprint the schedule. I've posted the details on the inaapt web site: http://inaapt.org/Members/sspickle/2007Meeting/rooms.pdf thanks, -steve From steve at spvi.com Thu Apr 19 12:44:26 2007 From: steve at spvi.com (Steve Spicklemire) Date: Thu Apr 19 11:44:14 2007 Subject: [INAAPT] Fwd: Middle School Summer Science Camp References: <46278654.7010205@nd.edu> Message-ID: From Mary DeWitt at Notre Dame: Begin forwarded message: > From: Mary DeWitt > Date: April 19, 2007 11:10:12 AM EDT > Subject: Middle School Summer Science Camp > > Sensing Our World 2007 > A week-long, all-day summer camp about physical science, materials, > physics, and sensors for students aged 12 to 14. > > July 16 – 20, 2007 > > Sponsored by > THE UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME - > DEPARTMENT OF CHEMISTRY & BIOCHEMISTRY > DEPARTMENT OF PHYSICS > JOINT INSTITUTE FOR NUCLEAR ASTROPHYSICS > NUCLEAR STRUCTURE LABORATORY > > APPLICATION DEADLINE - Monday, May 25, 2007 > > WEB SITE (additional information and application forms) www.jinaweb.org/outreach/SOW/SOW%20cover%20and%20info.pdf> > > Camp Activities > Students will learn about the scientific principles behind > many sensors used in everyday life through hands-on activities. > They’ll learn how devices such as sound and motion detectors work, > and they’ll make electric circuits, build their own detectors and > learn about polymers, cryogenics, and electrical generators. > Classes are held at the Notre Dame campus Monday through > Friday, from 9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Activities include meeting with > ND scientists to learn about their research and visits to several > different research labs on campus. > We expect a large response to the summer camp. Applications > are reviewed by the Sensing our World 2007 selection committee, and > twenty students will be admitted to the week’s hands-on science > exploration program. Selection notices will be mailed to students > June 15, 2007. Financial aid and scholarships will be made available. > > Sensing Our World Instructors > Camp instructors include faculty, staff, and graduate students > from Physics, Chemistry, and Anthropology, Biology, and Engineering > departments at ND, as well as a certified 9-12 teacher. > Kevin Johnston is the lead instructor of the camp. Mr. > Johnston is a high school physical science teacher in the Baugo > Community Schools, and holds degrees from Purdue and Indiana > University-South Bend. He was co-instructor of this program last > year, and brings to the program a wealth of classroom experience. > > Camp Sponsors > Sensing Our World 2007 is sponsored by the Department of > Chemistry & Biochemistry, the Joint Institute for Astrophysics > (JINA), the Department of Physics, the Nuclear Structure > Laboratory, and individual faculty researchers at the University of > Notre Dame. > > DOWNLOAD APPLICATION MATERIALS: > SEND TOGETHER: Application Form outreach/SOW/SOWappPage3_07.pdf> > Parent / Legal Guardian > Permission Form SOWappPage4_07.pdf> > > TO BE SENT SEPARATELY: Teacher Recommendation Form www.jinaweb.org/outreach/SOW/SOWappPage2_07.pdf> > > The camp fee is $200.00. Financial assistance is available for > those who qualify. To request financial aid, please write a letter > supporting the student’s need for assistance and include it with > the application. DO NOT SEND PAYMENT WITH THE APPLICATION FORM. > > GOALS > According to the Third International Mathematics and Science > Study (TIMSS) report, U.S. school children start out at the same > level as their international peers in elementary grades. However, > they fall behind in science and math by the time they reach the > middle grades. When they reach high school, they score below the > international average. In response to this finding, Sensing our > World was designed to expose middle-school students to the exciting > world of science, mathematics, and technology in an intensive hands- > on environment. The goal of the Sensing our World is to stimulate > middle school students’ interest in physical science using familiar > objects that operate by important, basic physical principles. > > STRUCTURE OF CAMP > The camp operates during five weekdays in summer from 9 a.m. > to 4 p.m. with a one-hour lunch break. All students aged 12-14 are > eligible to apply. > Selection is based upon the camp application submitted by the > student describing the reasons for wanting to attend the camp in > conjunction with a recommendation from a science teacher. Grade > point average is not used as a criterion. Scholarships are > available. Twenty students will be selected to participate in the > initial debut of Sensing Our World at ND. Classes will be led by an > experienced certified K-12 Science teacher with ND faculty and > graduate students providing specialized labs. > > ACTIVITIES > The lessons of Sensing our World are designed to align with > the Federal Education Standards for the middle school level > student. Hands-on experiments and lecture demonstrations are > employed. For example, in a prior session each student built a > burglar alarm, using light sensitive CdS photodetectors, thereby > introducing semiconductors, conductors and insulators, as well as > simple circuits in the process. Students learned about smoke > detectors that use a small quantity of radioactive materials. > > EVALUATION > Each student will receive a camp manual containing > explanations and supplementary background information about all > labs projects, as well as resource materials. > A pre-test and post-test are administered for each session. > The pre-test informs the instructors about each student’s > scientific background, which assists in tailoring the session > content and level. The post-test gives a quantitative evaluation > about the student’s progress over the course of the week. A > concluding open-ended questionnaire is used to assess the student’s > feelings about the camp. The camp concludes with demonstrations of > self-made sensors by the students to an audience consisting of > parents, family, ND faculty and staff. Each student is presented a > certificate in a short award ceremony. > > *************************** > Mary DeWitt > Outreach Specialist > JINA-Joint Institute for Nuclear Astrophysics > University of Notre Dame > Department of Physics > 180D Nieuwland Science Hall > Notre Dame, IN 46556-5670 > 574-631-8297 > fax 574-631-5952 > mdewitt@nd.edu > > > From steve at spvi.com Mon Apr 23 14:12:10 2007 From: steve at spvi.com (Steve Spicklemire) Date: Mon Apr 23 13:12:19 2007 Subject: [INAAPT] Fwd: AAPT workshops References: Message-ID: <5A6BFD4C-5339-4468-AED3-EB277C6E5604@spvi.com> Hi Folks, I got this from Rosaline, and I thought I'd forward it to the list. For what it's worth (and while I have your attention) I thought the meeting at Rose was managed wonderfully! Thanks to all those involved, Mike, Julie, Duane and Rob, and everyone else for that matter. ;-) It's only a shame that such a great meeting was so poorly attended. Only about 30 of us showed up for this time around. I hope more folks can come next year. Both UIndy and IU offered to host next year, and last I heard we (UIndy) were going to host the 2008 meeting, and IU was planning to host in 2009. We also discussed the possibility of moving the meeting to the fall. We'll need to make that decision *before* the next spring meeting if we want to do it during the 2008/2009 academic year, so if you have an opinion.. let's hear it! On that note, If you have something (e.g., picture, thoughts, etc) that would be good for the web site, you can either post them yourself, after you log in to your account, or you can send them to me, and I can post them for you. I'd also like to point out that any subscriber to this list can post messages simply by addressing their email to: inaapt@inaapt.org Some folks apparently have the impression that they need to send messages through me. I assure you it's not true! Anyway.. on to the note from Rosaline! take care, -steve Begin forwarded message: > From: Rosaline Secrest > Date: April 22, 2007 7:10:29 PM EDT > To: Steve Spicklemire > Subject: AAPT workshops > > Hello Steve, > > In light of my question and our discussion yesterday regarding the > loss of > the Announcer and the difficulty of seeing the abstracts of the > workshops > for the summer AAPT meeting, I thought I would pass along the fact > that > today when I went online to the AAPT website, I see that the > abstracts are > now available without registering. Perhaps those in charge got some > complaints and responded. > > Thanks! > > Rosaline > > From steve at spvi.com Thu Apr 26 05:32:34 2007 From: steve at spvi.com (Steve Spicklemire) Date: Thu Apr 26 04:32:39 2007 Subject: [INAAPT] INAAPT meeting Message-ID: <9426012A-0C5B-4963-B6BE-3826525BB4EE@spvi.com> Hi Folks, Uwe Hanson called me about the fall Indiana Academy of Science meeting. He was wondering if the Indiana AAPT would like to participate. In light of our conversation about possibly switching (or adding) a fall event I was wondering what folks on this list thought about the idea. Their fall meeting runs Thursday and Friday (October 25/26). If we wanted to add Friday night/Saturday morning activities for any interested IAS members to join us it might work out, or there may be some other way we could be involved. I'm certainly not trying to push for this, but I am a bit discouraged about the turnout in Terre Haute, and it would be nice to find some way to improve that for next time. Anyway, share your thoughts if you have a minute. (If you 'Reply to all recipients' you should see the list address in your reply, otherwise your reply will just go to me. If that's what you want, OK, but I think it would be better to have a 'group' conversation in this case.) thanks, -steve From jbellina at saintmarys.edu Thu Apr 26 07:09:26 2007 From: jbellina at saintmarys.edu (Joseph Bellina) Date: Thu Apr 26 06:09:43 2007 Subject: [INAAPT] INAAPT meeting In-Reply-To: <9426012A-0C5B-4963-B6BE-3826525BB4EE@spvi.com> References: <9426012A-0C5B-4963-B6BE-3826525BB4EE@spvi.com> Message-ID: <97E88556-F732-4D4B-99E6-3656706C885D@saintmarys.edu> For the record, I checked their website and the academy has a section on science education as well as one on physics. Do you know, Steve, if they are having the same attendance problems? Have you tried to assess why attendance was so low in Terre Haute? Thanks for working to keep this effort going, joe Joseph J. Bellina, Jr. Ph.D. Professor of Physics Saint Mary's College Notre Dame, IN 46556 On Apr 26, 2007, at 5:32 AM, Steve Spicklemire wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Uwe Hanson called me about the fall Indiana Academy of Science > meeting. He was wondering if the Indiana AAPT would like to > participate. In light of our conversation about possibly switching > (or adding) a fall event I was wondering what folks on this list > thought about the idea. Their fall meeting runs Thursday and Friday > (October 25/26). If we wanted to add Friday night/Saturday morning > activities for any interested IAS members to join us it might work > out, or there may be some other way we could be involved. I'm > certainly not trying to push for this, but I am a bit discouraged > about the turnout in Terre Haute, and it would be nice to find some > way to improve that for next time. Anyway, share your thoughts if > you have a minute. > > (If you 'Reply to all recipients' you should see the list address > in your reply, otherwise your reply will just go to me. If that's > what you want, OK, but I think it would be better to have a 'group' > conversation in this case.) > > thanks, > -steve > > _______________________________________________ > INAAPT mailing list > INAAPT@inaapt.org > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/inaapt From steve at spvi.com Thu Apr 26 09:39:29 2007 From: steve at spvi.com (Steve Spicklemire) Date: Thu Apr 26 08:39:35 2007 Subject: Fwd: [INAAPT] INAAPT meeting References: Message-ID: <011E73A1-38B6-46C6-BAD2-2F76AA081A5F@spvi.com> There was a problem with Julie's email address (which I hope is resolved) but in the mean time, she posted this: Begin forwarded message: > From: "Conlon, Julie A" > Date: April 26, 2007 8:21:59 AM EDT > To: "Steve Spicklemire" , > Subject: RE: [INAAPT] INAAPT meeting > > My own thoughts are that we need to do an aggressive one-on-one > contact > with high school teachers we know. However, I believe we must have a > focus, a purpose. From what I've witnessed over the past 6 years, > teachers are so very busy and committed to their teaching, coaching, > continued professional development (often through filling up their > summers at university workshops that provide payment and credit/CRUs). > I believe that if we want an increased presence by high school > teachers, > we need to offer what teachers can take and use in their > classrooms. We > may need to learn what that is first. > >> From experience, we've struggled along the same way trying to get our > high school QuarkNet program going. It's taken some exploration and > thinking out of the box, but I THINK one thing we've learned was to > incorporate physics undergrads through a service learning class, so we > can bring the program to the classroom. The focus is now becoming > more > clear--building and delivering cosmic ray detectors for high school > classrooms. Prior to this, we were presenting a week during the > summer > with guest lecturers on theory from particle physics. Our service > learning students, under the guidance of our class, were able to > translate this theory into activities that will allow high school > students to better understand the research component via use of the > detector. > > I use this as an example. Because of my unique position being full- > time > in outreach, I would be happy to make visits to high schools with ICP > and Physics teachers who are not a part of INAAPT. Perhaps I would > take > along a brief survey, finding out what these teachers would value in > terms of support that could then be developed through INAAPT. For > one, > it seems that a week of guided development of demos is important. > > I guess I'm not convinced that joining forces with another > organization > will necessarily increase involvement in INAAPT. > > Julie > > Julie A. Conlon Office Phone: > (765) 494-0740 > Physics Outreach Coordinator Mobile Phone: (765) > 479-4722 > College of Science Fax: (765) > 496-2298 > > Purdue University > www.physics.purdue.edu/outreach > 525 Northwestern Avenue > West Lafayette, IN 47907 > > > Science is built up of facts as a house is of stones, but a collection > of facts is no more a science than a > pile of stones is a house. > > --Henri Poincare, La Science et l'Hypothese (1908) > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: inaapt-bounces@inaapt.org [mailto:inaapt-bounces@inaapt.org] On > Behalf Of Steve Spicklemire > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:33 AM > To: inaapt@inaapt.org > Cc: Steve Spicklemire > Subject: [INAAPT] INAAPT meeting > > Hi Folks, > > Uwe Hanson called me about the fall Indiana Academy of Science > meeting. He was wondering if the Indiana AAPT would like to > participate. In light of our conversation about possibly switching > (or adding) a fall event I was wondering what folks on this list > thought about the idea. Their fall meeting runs Thursday and Friday > (October 25/26). If we wanted to add Friday night/Saturday morning > activities for any interested IAS members to join us it might work > out, or there may be some other way we could be involved. I'm > certainly not trying to push for this, but I am a bit discouraged > about the turnout in Terre Haute, and it would be nice to find some > way to improve that for next time. Anyway, share your thoughts if you > have a minute. > > (If you 'Reply to all recipients' you should see the list address in > your reply, otherwise your reply will just go to me. If that's what > you want, OK, but I think it would be better to have a 'group' > conversation in this case.) > > thanks, > -steve > > _______________________________________________ > INAAPT mailing list > INAAPT@inaapt.org > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/inaapt > From steve at spvi.com Thu Apr 26 09:41:25 2007 From: steve at spvi.com (Steve Spicklemire) Date: Thu Apr 26 08:41:31 2007 Subject: Fwd: [INAAPT] INAAPT meeting References: <46306BCE020000EE0000D9DB@isugw.indstate.edu> Message-ID: <68696676-DBF5-4CE9-8EC8-6EBC5EA49555@spvi.com> From Uwe: Begin forwarded message: > From: "Uwe Hansen" > Date: April 26, 2007 9:07:26 AM EDT > To: > Subject: Re: [INAAPT] INAAPT meeting > > Steve > > I don't seem to be able to reply to all recipients. Maybe you can > forward this message to the list. At any rate, commenting on Joe > Bellina's note. We do not have a general attendance problem at IAS but > we do have an attendance problem in the Physics and Math sections, > thus > having a joint meeting, or at least a common date and location with > dual > attendance options would be helpful. I can see special benefits for > workshops. I ran the idea past the current IAS president, and he was > very excited about the possibilities. For the October IAS meeting > we are > planning on a hands-on session. For that session we will bring in > about > 50 HS students. They will have the opportunity to participate in about > 20 experiments ranging in complexity from simple wave propagation on a > stretched spring, to ultrasonic levitation, normal mode mapping, and > using a vacuum cannon to shoot a ping pong ball through pop cans. On > Thursday evening we will have a demonstration concert to which the > community will be invited. In this Concert-Lecture, we will introduce > the science principles basic to each instument family, illustrating > each > with performance examples, followed by full ensemble performances. > > Uwe > >>>> Steve Spicklemire 04/26/07 5:32 AM >>> > Hi Folks, > > Uwe Hanson called me about the fall Indiana Academy of Science > meeting. He was wondering if the Indiana AAPT would like to > participate. In light of our conversation about possibly switching > (or adding) a fall event I was wondering what folks on this list > thought about the idea. Their fall meeting runs Thursday and Friday > (October 25/26). If we wanted to add Friday night/Saturday morning > activities for any interested IAS members to join us it might work > out, or there may be some other way we could be involved. I'm > certainly not trying to push for this, but I am a bit discouraged > about the turnout in Terre Haute, and it would be nice to find some > way to improve that for next time. Anyway, share your thoughts if you > have a minute. > > (If you 'Reply to all recipients' you should see the list address in > your reply, otherwise your reply will just go to me. If that's what > you want, OK, but I think it would be better to have a 'group' > conversation in this case.) > > thanks, > -steve > > _______________________________________________ > INAAPT mailing list > INAAPT@inaapt.org > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/inaapt > From marchant.2 at nd.edu Thu Apr 26 09:54:37 2007 From: marchant.2 at nd.edu (Beth Marchant) Date: Thu Apr 26 08:53:55 2007 Subject: [INAAPT] INAAPT meeting In-Reply-To: <9426012A-0C5B-4963-B6BE-3826525BB4EE@spvi.com> References: <9426012A-0C5B-4963-B6BE-3826525BB4EE@spvi.com> Message-ID: <4630AF1D.2070909@nd.edu> Hi Steve, I can only speak for myself as to why I didn't attend the IN-AAPT meeting this year. The drive is just too long from South Bend to Terre Haute for me. In the past, I have attended meetings in Terre Haute and Purdue (last year) among others and have found them to be interesting and well worth my time. The biggest problem for me is that there is no easy route from South Bend to Indianapolis and then to have to drive further is just too hard for the short amount of time that the meeting lasts. I don't have any great solutions, although moving the meeting around from south to central to north will at least allow people from different parts of the state to attend different years - obviously not a perfect solution . . . I know that the same attendance problems occur when state-wide meetings are held in the northern part of the state - the people from the southern end find it difficult to get there. Peace, Beth -- Beth Marchant Notre Dame QuarkNet Director 225 Nieuwland Science Hall Notre Dame, IN 46556 (574) 631-3343 (Phone) (574) 631-3977 (Fax) Website: www.nd.edu/~quarknet ----------------------------------- "Start by doing what's necessary, then do what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible." - Francis of Assisi Steve Spicklemire wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Uwe Hanson called me about the fall Indiana Academy of Science > meeting. He was wondering if the Indiana AAPT would like to > participate. In light of our conversation about possibly switching (or > adding) a fall event I was wondering what folks on this list thought > about the idea. Their fall meeting runs Thursday and Friday (October > 25/26). If we wanted to add Friday night/Saturday morning activities > for any interested IAS members to join us it might work out, or there > may be some other way we could be involved. I'm certainly not trying > to push for this, but I am a bit discouraged about the turnout in > Terre Haute, and it would be nice to find some way to improve that for > next time. Anyway, share your thoughts if you have a minute. > > (If you 'Reply to all recipients' you should see the list address in > your reply, otherwise your reply will just go to me. If that's what > you want, OK, but I think it would be better to have a 'group' > conversation in this case.) > > thanks, > -steve > > _______________________________________________ > INAAPT mailing list > INAAPT@inaapt.org > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/inaapt From RWJoyner at indianatech.edu Thu Apr 26 10:46:55 2007 From: RWJoyner at indianatech.edu (Joyner, Rex W) Date: Thu Apr 26 09:47:04 2007 Subject: [INAAPT] INAAPT meeting In-Reply-To: <9426012A-0C5B-4963-B6BE-3826525BB4EE@spvi.com> Message-ID: <9B31C7E4969E144C871141A94A32014C01A6239D@MERCURY.indtech.edu> I like the idea of a Fall meeting, but a Thursday/Friday meeting is absolutely impossible for me. Rex Joyner -----Original Message----- From: inaapt-bounces@inaapt.org [mailto:inaapt-bounces@inaapt.org] On Behalf Of Steve Spicklemire Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:33 AM To: inaapt@inaapt.org Cc: Steve Spicklemire Subject: [INAAPT] INAAPT meeting Hi Folks, Uwe Hanson called me about the fall Indiana Academy of Science meeting. He was wondering if the Indiana AAPT would like to participate. In light of our conversation about possibly switching (or adding) a fall event I was wondering what folks on this list thought about the idea. Their fall meeting runs Thursday and Friday (October 25/26). If we wanted to add Friday night/Saturday morning activities for any interested IAS members to join us it might work out, or there may be some other way we could be involved. I'm certainly not trying to push for this, but I am a bit discouraged about the turnout in Terre Haute, and it would be nice to find some way to improve that for next time. Anyway, share your thoughts if you have a minute. (If you 'Reply to all recipients' you should see the list address in your reply, otherwise your reply will just go to me. If that's what you want, OK, but I think it would be better to have a 'group' conversation in this case.) thanks, -steve _______________________________________________ INAAPT mailing list INAAPT@inaapt.org http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/inaapt From rtarara at saintmarys.edu Thu Apr 26 12:01:42 2007 From: rtarara at saintmarys.edu (Rick Tarara) Date: Thu Apr 26 11:10:04 2007 Subject: [INAAPT] INAAPT meeting References: <011E73A1-38B6-46C6-BAD2-2F76AA081A5F@spvi.com> Message-ID: <008501c7881c$f806b740$96503593@rtarara> Let me discuss just the logistics of the meeting. IF--big IF, we continue to think of the yearly meeting as a 1-day, drive in, drive out meeting, then for maximum coverage the meeting should always be in Indianapolis. Indy is no more than 3 hours away from any point in the state--well the south-west may be a problem until Mitch builds his highway! The other three corners of the state are linked by interstates and the central north and south areas are only 100-120 miles away even though the roads have so many stoplights that it takes the 3 hours. To really accommodate this, I would suggest a 10-4 or even 10-5 time frame for the meeting. Starting later to allow people to come in from the corners without leaving at 4AM and now, thanks to DST (and Mitch), late April meetings would still get people home before dark. Let me also suggest a change (or perhaps return) to a format that would have 3 hours of contributed talks--concurrent sessions (but not too many)--a lunch break with awards--then either a single high interest topical talk, two or three concurrent workshops, or break-up into topical round-table discussion groups. End the day with the business meeting. The afternoon program could rotate through the different forms, or always be the same, depending on interest. (A survey of members might help determine that.) I would still offer a Friday evening optional session for those who can and want to arrive early and stay overnight. Moving the meeting around the state serves some good purposes, but only if we can actually get more people in the region to come. In the past that was not really the case. We might get 10 regional people and then the 30-40 regulars no matter where we went -- We've been at Tri-State, Saint Mary's, Calumet, Hanover, etc. Unless we gave someone an award and immediately drafted them into the officer ranks, we seldom saw any of the '10' newbies again. So as much as I enjoy going to other campuses (discovered Madison Indiana through a meeting at Hanover), I would say that Indianapolis offers the best chance of attracting a 50 person crowd. However, I agree with the comment that we need to do some recruiting and some advertising--much on a personal basis--to get more High School teachers to come. The cadre of University and College types that have been regulars is getting thinned out through retirement (and worse), and so there may be the need for some arm twisting with younger AAPT members at those institutions. Joint meetings can be great, but since we would really be in the position of needing to go to Illinois or go to Ohio for such meetings (having gotten both states to come here in the past--Purdue and Ball State) and such meetings would necessarily be two day affairs, you have travel and lodging to worry about. Will people go that far and spend the money? Just my thoughts, Rick *************************** Richard W. Tarara Professor of Physics Saint Mary's College Notre Dame, IN rtarara@saintmarys.edu ****************************** Free Physics Software PC & Mac www.saintmarys.edu/~rtarara/software.html ******************************* From jaconlon at purdue.edu Thu Apr 26 13:13:24 2007 From: jaconlon at purdue.edu (Conlon, Julie A) Date: Thu Apr 26 12:13:37 2007 Subject: [INAAPT] INAAPT meeting Message-ID: Rick, I really appreciate your perceptions. I agree fully with the location, and this was what I was hoping to gain support with on Sat. I feel strongly that it would enhance INAAPT to hold the meeting centrally and at the same location each year. I suugested Purdue as the annual site, not because of its central location, but because most/all other professional groups (biology, earth and atmospheric, chemistry) meet at Purdue and Purdue supports the groups by handling mailings, websites, etc. To my knowlege, Purdue is the only college/university that has 6 full-time outeach coordinators in the College of Science. We dedicate ourselves FULL TIME to the needs of K-12 teachers. More importantly, last year I gained support to pay entirely for the costs of the meeting, including $100 apiece awards (this year this equated to $300) and all the food--a full supper on Fri, breakfast, lunch. I have no reason not to think I couldn't raise these funds from Purdue alumni if Purdue hosted the meetings, because the particular individual and the company he owns is supportive of physics education. The complaints I heard at Saturday's meeting were coming not from those who have actively participated in executing a meeting. But, no matter what, we must begin to think out of a box that isn't working well. One idea the team of outreach coordinators had was to TRY hosting all the professional organizations on one day so teachers from a school might travel together. Will it work? We don't know--we haven't tried it. I do know that if 6 outreach coordinators are all working to invite teachers, it could work. There may be other innovative ideas. We need to do some creative problem solving. Julie ----- Original Message ----- From: inaapt-bounces@inaapt.org To: Steve Spicklemire ; inaapt@inaapt.org Sent: Thu Apr 26 12:01:42 2007 Subject: Re: [INAAPT] INAAPT meeting Let me discuss just the logistics of the meeting. IF--big IF, we continue to think of the yearly meeting as a 1-day, drive in, drive out meeting, then for maximum coverage the meeting should always be in Indianapolis. Indy is no more than 3 hours away from any point in the state--well the south-west may be a problem until Mitch builds his highway! The other three corners of the state are linked by interstates and the central north and south areas are only 100-120 miles away even though the roads have so many stoplights that it takes the 3 hours. To really accommodate this, I would suggest a 10-4 or even 10-5 time frame for the meeting. Starting later to allow people to come in from the corners without leaving at 4AM and now, thanks to DST (and Mitch), late April meetings would still get people home before dark. Let me also suggest a change (or perhaps return) to a format that would have 3 hours of contributed talks--concurrent sessions (but not too many)--a lunch break with awards--then either a single high interest topical talk, two or three concurrent workshops, or break-up into topical round-table discussion groups. End the day with the business meeting. The afternoon program could rotate through the different forms, or always be the same, depending on interest. (A survey of members might help determine that.) I would still offer a Friday evening optional session for those who can and want to arrive early and stay overnight. Moving the meeting around the state serves some good purposes, but only if we can actually get more people in the region to come. In the past that was not really the case. We might get 10 regional people and then the 30-40 regulars no matter where we went -- We've been at Tri-State, Saint Mary's, Calumet, Hanover, etc. Unless we gave someone an award and immediately drafted them into the officer ranks, we seldom saw any of the '10' newbies again. So as much as I enjoy going to other campuses (discovered Madison Indiana through a meeting at Hanover), I would say that Indianapolis offers the best chance of attracting a 50 person crowd. However, I agree with the comment that we need to do some recruiting and some advertising--much on a personal basis--to get more High School teachers to come. The cadre of University and College types that have been regulars is getting thinned out through retirement (and worse), and so there may be the need for some arm twisting with younger AAPT members at those institutions. Joint meetings can be great, but since we would really be in the position of needing to go to Illinois or go to Ohio for such meetings (having gotten both states to come here in the past--Purdue and Ball State) and such meetings would necessarily be two day affairs, you have travel and lodging to worry about. Will people go that far and spend the money? Just my thoughts, Rick *************************** Richard W. Tarara Professor of Physics Saint Mary's College Notre Dame, IN rtarara@saintmarys.edu ****************************** Free Physics Software PC & Mac www.saintmarys.edu/~rtarara/software.html ******************************* _______________________________________________ INAAPT mailing list INAAPT@inaapt.org http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/inaapt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.spvi.com/pipermail/inaapt/attachments/20070426/1e51d79d/attachment.html From GWClark at manchester.edu Thu Apr 26 14:14:47 2007 From: GWClark at manchester.edu (Clark, Gregory W.) Date: Thu Apr 26 13:15:11 2007 Subject: [INAAPT] INAAPT meeting In-Reply-To: <4630AF1D.2070909@nd.edu> Message-ID: <378888595BC48D46A30FD994DF33A31901BCDA71@pollux.manchester.edu> Dear Steve and All, I have not been to an IN-AAPT meeting in about three years due to a continued conflict with an annual event here at Manchester (for which I am an organizer). I actually did plan to come to the Saturday part of the meeting this year, but the 3.5 hour one-way drive combined with single-parenting while my wife was out of town nixed it for me in the end. So, it was location, it turns out, for me as well this time around. I have appreciated all the IN-AAPT meetings I've attended and hope to become a "regular" eventually. The location does make a difference as far as driving is concerned, but I have enjoyed getting to know other campuses by changing the location! In the absence of other constraints, I personally would prefer moving the meeting around a bit (but if it's in Evansville ...). I wonder about how much location influences our decisions - it would be very helpful to hear from others on this. [BTW, if we keep with changing locations, Manchester would love to host a meeting someday now that we have a new science facility (Stave and I have talked about this in the past - before the building was built).] Speaking only for myself, fall would be easier. Late fall is even better because lousy weather means fewer commitments with high school sports and other outdoor activities. Spring is full of banquets, graduation preps, my heavier course-load, and, with returning good weather, more outdoor sports. All the best, Greg Dr. Gregory W. Clark Department of Physics Manchester College North Manchester, IN 46962 260.982.5071 -----Original Message----- From: inaapt-bounces@inaapt.org [mailto:inaapt-bounces@inaapt.org] On Behalf Of Beth Marchant Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 9:55 AM To: Steve Spicklemire Cc: inaapt@inaapt.org Subject: Re: [INAAPT] INAAPT meeting Hi Steve, I can only speak for myself as to why I didn't attend the IN-AAPT meeting this year. The drive is just too long from South Bend to Terre Haute for me. In the past, I have attended meetings in Terre Haute and Purdue (last year) among others and have found them to be interesting and well worth my time. The biggest problem for me is that there is no easy route from South Bend to Indianapolis and then to have to drive further is just too hard for the short amount of time that the meeting lasts. I don't have any great solutions, although moving the meeting around from south to central to north will at least allow people from different parts of the state to attend different years - obviously not a perfect solution . . . I know that the same attendance problems occur when state-wide meetings are held in the northern part of the state - the people from the southern end find it difficult to get there. Peace, Beth -- Beth Marchant Notre Dame QuarkNet Director 225 Nieuwland Science Hall Notre Dame, IN 46556 (574) 631-3343 (Phone) (574) 631-3977 (Fax) Website: www.nd.edu/~quarknet ----------------------------------- "Start by doing what's necessary, then do what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible." - Francis of Assisi Steve Spicklemire wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Uwe Hanson called me about the fall Indiana Academy of Science > meeting. He was wondering if the Indiana AAPT would like to > participate. In light of our conversation about possibly switching (or > adding) a fall event I was wondering what folks on this list thought > about the idea. Their fall meeting runs Thursday and Friday (October > 25/26). If we wanted to add Friday night/Saturday morning activities > for any interested IAS members to join us it might work out, or there > may be some other way we could be involved. I'm certainly not trying > to push for this, but I am a bit discouraged about the turnout in > Terre Haute, and it would be nice to find some way to improve that for > next time. Anyway, share your thoughts if you have a minute. > > (If you 'Reply to all recipients' you should see the list address in > your reply, otherwise your reply will just go to me. If that's what > you want, OK, but I think it would be better to have a 'group' > conversation in this case.) > > thanks, > -steve > > _______________________________________________ > INAAPT mailing list > INAAPT@inaapt.org > http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/inaapt _______________________________________________ INAAPT mailing list INAAPT@inaapt.org http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/inaapt From pmason at wvec.k12.in.us Thu Apr 26 19:04:45 2007 From: pmason at wvec.k12.in.us (patricia mason) Date: Thu Apr 26 18:05:21 2007 Subject: [INAAPT] INAAPT meeting In-Reply-To: <008501c7881c$f806b740$96503593@rtarara> Message-ID: <000b01c78857$506f9250$1dcd0c48@D4MLV611> As a recently retired high school teacher of physics (and chemistry), I'd like to address the comment about getting more high school teachers to come. I imagine that the majority of high school physics teachers in the state teach more than just physics (or ICP). Many teach 5 periods of chemistry or math and 1 period of physics. Many do not consider themselves physicists, as they trained in another primary field, and had physics added to their teaching load. So I think that it is a matter of perception of the teachers as to whether they "belong" at such a meeting and also those of administrators whether they will allow (read that pay for) attendance at a meeting that affects such a small portion of the student body. I have enjoyed the meetings that I attended; I especially appreciated the AAPT meetings when they were held in Indianapolis and all high school physics teachers in the state were invited and had all expenses paid. (Administrators liked it when even subs were paid for.) So maybe a way to get more high school teachers involved is to reach them through Julie Conlon (and her counterparts at other schools) and offer free registration if it is their first meeting, or something like that. Patti Mason patti@cindasdata.com <<<< Message-ID: <002001c78b3f$451b8360$2e9e4f81@ads.iu.edu> Having had a couple of days to chew on the subject of when/where to have INAAPT meetings I am finally ready to step forward and contribute my two bits worth of opinion. First, let's keep in mind that we are all committee to the success of the INAAPT. At the same time we need to realize that our resources are very limited. It is difficult to say no but it is better to continue doing a few things well rather than a lot of things poorly. That said, I address the issues brought up in the current spate of messages. 1. No matter where we hold the meeting, someone will think (i.e. say) it is too far to travel. What they are really saying is, for whatever stated reasons, in their opinion, it isn't worth the trouble to attend. 2. Moving the meeting around the state is a good idea as it encourages people who do use distance as an excuse to show up at least occassionally. It also allows teachers to see many of the fine facilities we have for physics in the state. I appreciate Judy Conlon's and Purdues efforts in supporting the INAAPT administratively. However, I believe it would be a grave mistake to host our meeting at Purdue every year. 3. I strongly believe we need to continue to have one meeting a year that we can call our own. The spring meeting works best for me as my work is winding down and I can afford to take some time off. I recognize this isn't true for other people. High school teachers seem to be especially busy during this time. But then, they seem to be especially busy all the time. It comes with the territory. I do look at the Spring meeting as a reward for the hard work I have done. It is my chance to visit with others who have the same interests and aspirations. Whether we have ten or a hundred attendees it is where I go to get reinforcement and confirmation that my efforts are indeed worthwhile. It may sound trite but I am always rejuvenated after attending one of our meetings. The euphoria doesn't alwas last long but the momentary high does motivate me, knowing that I will get another in a few months. 4. We are not alone in dwindling attendance. This seems to be a problem across the board when it comes to the sciences at the high school (and college) level. There are simply too many competing activities. Even when teachers are compensated for their time and travel it is difficult to get them to come. One of the issues is the growth and success of HASTI.This is an important meeting for teachers because so much is happening in one place. We perhaps should be better represented by giving talks or perhaps workshops at HASTI but we are constrained by time and our own commitments. Another issue is that the traditional activities that have been popular to physics teachers in the past are being replaced by activities that require less active participation by the teachers. Rather than science fairs where the teacher, or someone else, must work closely with individual students, we are going to Science Olympiads and Science Knowledge Bowl type activities where there is more team participation. These activities are more efficent for teachers strapped for time. I won't go into the argument of whether they as effectively instill scientific learning. That can be argued both ways and is somewhat of an academic argument. The clear fact is there are simply many more competing activities facing teachers than they have had in the past. 5. We are not reaching many teachers who would benefit from our meetings and from our membership. However, many of these teachers are afraid of coming for fear "we" will find out how little they know. Reaching the people (both high school and college) who never attend a meeting is a difficult task and may be more dependent on our individual efforts to build membership. The section can help with this but ultimately it comes down to each of us individually to become acquinted with those who are not attending. 6. We do have a marketing problem. Information about the section is not readily available. Our web site is confusing and does little to encourage a "drop in" visitor from investigating more. We do need to continue snail mail mailings and we do need to maintain a snail mail mailing list along with e-mail contacts. 7. It would be good to restructure the Spring meeting. If we have workshops, they cannot compete against the talks. Preferably have the workshops on Saturday afternoon. Friday afternoons, evenings are also available but my impression is it is difficult for many teachers to get away early enough to attend on Friday. It is certainly difficult for me. The current model of an ice-breaker, demo show and tell seems to work well. Saturday afternoon workshops makes for a long day for the host but it will make it far more attractive to the participants knowing they don't have to choose one over the other. I would suggest making the workshops more focused on training and review of some physics topic. They need to be hands on where participants are expected to use, or learn, physics. They don't have to be post doc level sessions. They just need to be simple straight forward and to the point. This way, those who are unsure wheteher they want to be there find the workshop beneficial and rewarding. Taking a piece of equipment home is the carrot and should not be the primary goal of the workshop. Time will tell whether such a model will be successful. 8. I think a Fall activity might be very useful. It is a long time between annual meetings. The smart thing may be combine our efforts with the Academy's. Perhaps we make a committment to support them by providing some talks and perhaps workshops at their Fall meeting. I would encourage pursuing some kind of supporting activity though I am not so sure I would want it to be a joint meeting. One benefit of doing this is we might reach some of the cross-discipline teachers who feel too insecure or are too busy to attend a separate INAAPT meeting. Perhaps we can nominate someone to provide laison with the academy to find out in more detail what they have in mind. Fall is not a good time for me but I would certainly make a strong effort to arrange to be there to give a presentation, workshop or whatever. Physics has historically been under represented at these meetings, to the detriment of both the Academy and the INAAPT. There could be some good synergy here. Dan Dan Beeker Undergraduate Physics Lab Coordinator Swain West 115 Physics Department, Indiana University 727 E. 3rd Street Bloomington, IN 47405 Phone: (812) 855-5903 Fax (812) 855-5533 debeeker@indiana.edu -----Original Message----- From: inaapt-bounces@inaapt.org [mailto:inaapt-bounces@inaapt.org] On Behalf Of Conlon, Julie A Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:13 PM To: rtarara@saintmarys.edu; steve@spvi.com; Inaapt@inaapt.org Subject: Re: [INAAPT] INAAPT meeting Rick, I really appreciate your perceptions. I agree fully with the location, and this was what I was hoping to gain support with on Sat. I feel strongly that it would enhance INAAPT to hold the meeting centrally and at the same location each year. I suugested Purdue as the annual site, not because of its central location, but because most/all other professional groups (biology, earth and atmospheric, chemistry) meet at Purdue and Purdue supports the groups by handling mailings, websites, etc. To my knowlege, Purdue is the only college/university that has 6 full-time outeach coordinators in the College of Science. We dedicate ourselves FULL TIME to the needs of K-12 teachers. More importantly, last year I gained support to pay entirely for the costs of the meeting, including $100 apiece awards (this year this equated to $300) and all the food--a full supper on Fri, breakfast, lunch. I have no reason not to think I couldn't raise these funds from Purdue alumni if Purdue hosted the meetings, because the particular individual and the company he owns is supportive of physics education. The complaints I heard at Saturday's meeting were coming not from those who have actively participated in executing a meeting. But, no matter what, we must begin to think out of a box that isn't working well. One idea the team of outreach coordinators had was to TRY hosting all the professional organizations on one day so teachers from a school might travel together. Will it work? We don't know--we haven't tried it. I do know that if 6 outreach coordinators are all working to invite teachers, it could work. There may be other innovative ideas. We need to do some creative problem solving. Julie ----- Original Message ----- From: inaapt-bounces@inaapt.org To: Steve Spicklemire ; inaapt@inaapt.org Sent: Thu Apr 26 12:01:42 2007 Subject: Re: [INAAPT] INAAPT meeting Let me discuss just the logistics of the meeting. IF--big IF, we continue to think of the yearly meeting as a 1-day, drive in, drive out meeting, then for maximum coverage the meeting should always be in Indianapolis. Indy is no more than 3 hours away from any point in the state--well the south-west may be a problem until Mitch builds his highway! The other three corners of the state are linked by interstates and the central north and south areas are only 100-120 miles away even though the roads have so many stoplights that it takes the 3 hours. To really accommodate this, I would suggest a 10-4 or even 10-5 time frame for the meeting. Starting later to allow people to come in from the corners without leaving at 4AM and now, thanks to DST (and Mitch), late April meetings would still get people home before dark. Let me also suggest a change (or perhaps return) to a format that would have 3 hours of contributed talks--concurrent sessions (but not too many)--a lunch break with awards--then either a single high interest topical talk, two or three concurrent workshops, or break-up into topical round-table discussion groups. End the day with the business meeting. The afternoon program could rotate through the different forms, or always be the same, depending on interest. (A survey of members might help determine that.) I would still offer a Friday evening optional session for those who can and want to arrive early and stay overnight. Moving the meeting around the state serves some good purposes, but only if we can actually get more people in the region to come. In the past that was not really the case. We might get 10 regional people and then the 30-40 regulars no matter where we went -- We've been at Tri-State, Saint Mary's, Calumet, Hanover, etc. Unless we gave someone an award and immediately drafted them into the officer ranks, we seldom saw any of the '10' newbies again. So as much as I enjoy going to other campuses (discovered Madison Indiana through a meeting at Hanover), I would say that Indianapolis offers the best chance of attracting a 50 person crowd. However, I agree with the comment that we need to do some recruiting and some advertising--much on a personal basis--to get more High School teachers to come. The cadre of University and College types that have been regulars is getting thinned out through retirement (and worse), and so there may be the need for some arm twisting with younger AAPT members at those institutions. Joint meetings can be great, but since we would really be in the position of needing to go to Illinois or go to Ohio for such meetings (having gotten both states to come here in the past--Purdue and Ball State) and such meetings would necessarily be two day affairs, you have travel and lodging to worry about. Will people go that far and spend the money? Just my thoughts, Rick *************************** Richard W. Tarara Professor of Physics Saint Mary's College Notre Dame, IN rtarara@saintmarys.edu ****************************** Free Physics Software PC & Mac www.saintmarys.edu/~rtarara/software.html ******************************* _______________________________________________ INAAPT mailing list INAAPT@inaapt.org http://mailman.spvi.com/mailman/listinfo/inaapt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.spvi.com/pipermail/inaapt/attachments/20070430/44184cdb/attachment-0001.html From rlsecrest at hughes.net Mon Apr 30 13:44:57 2007 From: rlsecrest at hughes.net (Rosaline Secrest) Date: Mon Apr 30 12:46:32 2007 Subject: [INAAPT] Re: Dan's message In-Reply-To: <002001c78b3f$451b8360$2e9e4f81@ads.iu.edu> Message-ID: At first read, I find I agree with most if not all you have to say, Dan. However I am responding now simply to thank you for have taken so much time and put a great deal of thought into preserving and improving our INAAPT. It will take the hard work of others like you if we are to be successful. After reading your posting more carefully, I would like to comment further. For now, Thank You! Rosaline -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.spvi.com/pipermail/inaapt/attachments/20070430/464fd140/attachment.html From debeeker at indiana.edu Mon Apr 30 15:09:37 2007 From: debeeker at indiana.edu (Dan Beeker) Date: Mon Apr 30 14:09:41 2007 Subject: [INAAPT] INAAPT meeting Message-ID: <003901c78b5b$19210e30$2e9e4f81@ads.iu.edu> Julie, I hope you will accept my humblest apologies for renaming you Judy. It seems I only make such faux paxs when there is INAAPT business at hand. If I recall the last time I confused names was when I sent out requests for nominations to all 830 middle school and high school principles in the state. I still get reminders on that one. No malfeasance was intended. I have no excuse other than to say I am suffering from battle fatigue from dealing with thousands of student's lab grades. It was a Freudian slip for which I will forever be embarrassed. Dan Dan Beeker Undergraduate Physics Lab Coordinator Swain West 115 Physics Department, Indiana University 727 E. 3rd Street Bloomington, IN 47405 Phone: (812) 855-5903 Fax (812) 855-5533 debeeker@indiana.edu -----Original Message----- I appreciate Judy Conlon's and Purdues efforts in supporting the INAAPT administratively. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.spvi.com/pipermail/inaapt/attachments/20070430/6427e8cf/attachment.html From steve at spvi.com Mon Apr 30 20:00:14 2007 From: steve at spvi.com (Steve Spicklemire) Date: Mon Apr 30 19:00:26 2007 Subject: [INAAPT] INAAPT meeting In-Reply-To: <002001c78b3f$451b8360$2e9e4f81@ads.iu.edu> References: <002001c78b3f$451b8360$2e9e4f81@ads.iu.edu> Message-ID: <4243B864-CDB8-430C-8513-5F1DF38EB46C@spvi.com> Hi Dan, Thanks for your thoughtful comments. I would love to hear suggestions about improving the web site. How can we make it clearer and easier to navigate? What information would be good for folks to see? How should it be organized? Summer is a great time for me to devote some serious effort to improving things. General comments like "it's confusing", while probably true, do not help much in directing potential improvements! What would a 'drop in' visitor like to know? I would really appreciate any thoughts any of you have in this regard. You can email me privately if you don't want to clog the list with such comments. thanks, -steve On Apr 30, 2007, at 11:50 AM, Dan Beeker wrote: > 6. We do have a marketing problem. Information about the section is > not readily available. Our web site is confusing and does little to > encourage a "drop in" visitor from investigating more. We do need > to continue snail mail mailings and we do need to maintain a snail > mail mailing list along with e-mail contacts. > >